Kill Ramien or Hulrun in Feud of the Faithful – Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous

In Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous, Feud of the Faithful is part of the main quest. In it, you will have to decide to kill Ramien or Hulrun. This moral dilemma can shape the alignment of your party, making you choose between good or evil. As part of the main story, this decision is unavoidable. Read on as we discuss the actions and consequences when you kill Ramien or Hulrun.

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Kill Ramien or Hulrun in Feud of the Faithful – Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous

When you complete the Divided City, you should make a passage. Once through, travel left and you will find a hole in the ground. A group of men will be around it and a guard will be next to the hole. The guard is Hulrun and gave help earlier in the game. He claims that the group of men were performing treason.

One of the men is Ramien. After a short conversation with him, he will run off to the North West of the Market and wait on a small hill. This is where you must make the decision to kill Ramien or Hulrun in Feud of the Faithful. Pathfinder, Wrath of the Righteous is basically making you choose your alignment at this point.

Your first option is to do the lawful thing and kill Ramien. He is a level three cleric and a chaotic good human. After killing him, you can take his breastplate, starknife and Scroll of Protection from Law.

The main concern if you choose this option is that it prevents you from taking part in the quest Starward Gaze. However, if you return to Hulrun at the Defenders Heart Inn, he will give you 530 XP and the option to join your party.

The second option is to side with Ramien and kill Hulrun. He is a level 13 inquisitor and lawful neutral. Hulrun actually has a lot of equipment to loot. A longsword, heavy shield, light crossbow, adamantine chainmail and two cure light wounds potions are yours on his death. When you report back to Ramien, he will give you 530xp. You can also recruit him to your team.

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  1. L

    This is not true, you don’t need to kill either of them. You can side with Ramien, do his quests (unlocking the Azata mythic path) and then show the Light of Heaven to Hulrun (by picking the “good” option when he tries to arrest the mage), which makes him side with you. Also, Hulrun never joins your party, he just offers to send his troops to help you assault the Gray Garrison (which he will still do even if you do Ramien’s quests). It’s perfectly possible to keep both of them alive and on your side.

    1. W

      I played a lawful good paladin and tried every option. I could not save both. May this is different for other alignments or other choices. I had been playing straight lawful up to this point.

      1. A
        alexander oelkers

        You couldn’t save him because Hulrun found him before you did. You have to find him first. Find his friends. Then find him again before Hulrun does, or find Hulrun first and tell him that he is needed elsewhere.

  2. T

    I’ve played lawful good kinetic knight and you very much can keep them both alive, after you show Hulrun the Light of Heaven to keep him calm ask what it is Ramien did there will be 3 options either kill ramien or attack Hulrun or the most important one to stay silent at that point Ramien runs away ask Hulrun where he thinks he went then go find Ramien at the Church you should have an option to try and talk to Hulrun to convince hiim Ramien is not an enemy after that go speak to him and it should be resolved at that point you can ask either of them to join at the Inn but you can only pick one cannot have both unfortunately.

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