Borderlands 3 Negative Guardian Rank Tokens Bug

Negative guardian rank & tokens is a bug that happens from time to time in Borderlands 3. People affected by it have reported having a negative number of guardian tokens, as well as being unable to spend them. The glitch is usually preceded by rapid rising in guardian ranks, so if you think you’re advancing too quickly, brace yourself. The damage isn’t irreversible, thankfully. If you’re affected by this error, read on to discover how to fix Borderlands 3 negative guardian rank tokens bug.

borderlands 3 negative guardian rank tokens bug
Borderlands 3 Negative Guardian Rank Tokens Bug

How to fix negative guardian tokens & rank?

Thankfully, your rewards and skills will still work. Any unlocks you’ve invested guardian tokens into will still work, so you won’t actually lose anything palpable. It will slow down your progress, though, but since you had a major bump right before the glitch, it kind of evens out. It seems like the game rewards you with too many ranks, then pushes you into negative point territory to balance things out. A lot of players reported getting back their tokens after playing a while and actually earning the ranks they unfairly received.

Guardian rank revert when offline

A number of people have reported getting their guardian rank reverted after playing offline, which was followed with a negative number of guardian tokens. This might be a separate issue, we’re not sure. The players who were affected reported all of the ranks they gained while playing offline disappearing after going back online.

Disabling cloud saves could help stop this from happening in the future. Other than that, what seems to help is going back offline, earning a full rank, then going online again. If you know of another solution, feel free to mention it in the comments, and we’ll include it in the guide.

Thanks to Reddit user Holyzz_.


If you're having trouble with other things in the game, you might want to check out some of the other guides we've written. We've listed the locations of Red Chests, Typhon Logs, Dead Claptrap Parts and Hijack Targets. We've explored the mission choices, like what happens when you side with Holder or Ramsden in On The Blood Path, or when you tell Rhys to keep or lose mustache in Atlas at Last. We've also covered secrets, like the one where you have to open the Holy Broadcast Center locked door.


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3 COMMENTS

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    Writerlaer

    The issue is the new 1.01 patch gearbox released. They close to doubled the amount of xp needed to gain a guardian rank on patch 1.01 vs vanilla. This caused all of the negative guardian rank issues as people who earned ranks before the patch required drastically less xp to do so. This theory has been tested by me by deleting the game off my ps4 and reinstalling off the disc in offline mode to remove the patch then checking my guardian rank. It will have increased and when playing the game, you will gain the guardian ranks faster. Now go online and install the patch, the ranks will go negative if you spent them or reduce if you did not spend them. My hypothesis is that when calculating out guardian rank levels, Gearbox and the Borderlands 3 team decided to make it off one giant experience pool rather than resetting the xp every level gained for the new level.

  2. A
    Aster

    Yeah no, I’ve been playing offline the whole time and no PS+ so I’m sure that it’s a different issue or not a real fix.

  3. D
    DB

    I have thee opposite issue, my game crashed (windows) and now i have over 10k tokens…I do not know how to go offline so have no clue how to fix

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